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The First Matrix [May. 25th, 2005|11:56 am]
Theology of the Matrix

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Well, seeing as discussion has hit a minor standstill here, I'm going to try and offer some sort of a thought provoking question (or at least I hope). A few posts back, a question of the role of the Merovingian was posed. I responded and mentioned briefly the "first Matrix" that the Architect refers to in "Matrix Revolutions" as being "virtually perfect...destroyed by choice". This to me seems to be redolent of Eden, destroyed by Eve's choice to take the apple in defiance of God or simply in a quest for the truth, which is what the revolutionaries of the Matrix mean to do. What do you all think of the first Matrix? Could it actually be what we regard as Eden (figuratively speaking, of course)?
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[User Picture]From: veko
2005-05-25 08:55 pm (UTC)
Ah, thank you for the revival, I, and I presume, Outcesticide have been busy. As soon as June comes I will be able to more fully concentrate on things such as this.

Anywho, I would presume that the first matrix was Eden and was pretty much destroyed by the humans. We like problems and torrement and thus were unable to accept perfection. We took of the tree of knowledge(wasn't it? I need to read the bible again) and gave up our chance at a perfect life. Of course it was a bit different in the bible and in the matrix since in the matrix reproduction occurred and in Eden it did not.
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[User Picture]From: kiss_my_asprin
2005-05-25 11:47 pm (UTC)
Well, one could assume that God or the Architect created a second Matrix (or the world of the remainder of the Bible) in order to accomodate humans' inherent desire for knowledge or the disbelief in perfection. So Eden is virtual, like the Matrix. It was just a thought.
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[User Picture]From: song_of_ambrosa
2005-06-08 02:56 am (UTC)
It is possible that the Architect constructed the first Matrix as a prospective Eden. This first Matrix had a flaw, in that its inhabitants (read: Adam and Eve) were implanted with the desire for the Answer to the Question, hence why the first Matrix/Eden had to fall.

That perspective, however, would lead to the assumption that the destruction of the preceding Matrices would be based on that flaw, and not on the Architect's desire to destroy it himself. Any thoughts regarding this?

Blessings,
Ambrosa
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[User Picture]From: song_of_ambrosa
2005-06-08 02:57 am (UTC)
And to Veko and Kiss_My_Aspirin, thank you for the revival in discussion.

Blessings,
Ambrosa
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[User Picture]From: veko
2005-06-10 05:24 pm (UTC)
That does make sense. Of course, perhaps the Architect purposely built it to be flawed. Then again, the feeling I got from the speech of his was that he just didn't know enough about humans to know that they expected suffering.
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[User Picture]From: song_of_ambrosa
2005-06-25 05:05 pm (UTC)
Well, to figure that one out, we'd have to contemplate how human or subhuman the Architect is. Perhaps he is more human than not, and constructed the Matrix flawed because he knew of no way to perfect it any further.

Hmmm. I wonder what the Oracle's take on the first Matrix would be?

:)
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[User Picture]From: veko
2005-07-05 11:18 am (UTC)
Was it not the Oracle that brought forth the fact that humans are imperfect?
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[User Picture]From: song_of_ambrosa
2005-07-05 09:02 pm (UTC)
Yes, that is true. So then would the Architect be human if the first Matrix was created so flawed?
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[User Picture]From: veko
2005-07-08 12:03 am (UTC)
No, he was completely unhuman thus causing him not to realize that humans don't want perfection.
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